So, it was probably the best source that we could find to talk about this. He wrote quite a lot of literature about – he was a CIA operative and he’s written some incredible books about it. So, this mentor that you worked, with, did he used to work in the CIA? RB: Well, that’s a good flaw, in my opinion. But, he’s definitely flawed and corruptible, simply because of his belief in humanity. I don’t know where Daniel’s gonna go in the second season. I didn’t want to create, sort of, a false super hero that could run around with a gun. And, what I wanted to create was somebody who felt very real, who was flawed, who was, potentially, not gonna succeed in his job. Um, we also worked with Bob Beyer who was a great source for us, to find, truthfully, what the function of the CIA is, and was and will be, and I really took it from there. I could feel that there was a party line that some people were treading and then there were people of dissent that wanted to expose what the CIA did. And it varies broadly across, you know, across different people that have worked for the agency. RA: I really looked at a lot of accounts of what the CIA was. Well, you’re really well known for how much you prepare for your roles, so I was wondering, what did you do to prepare to play Daniel? So, I’m, kind of, gathering my source information now to step foot into season 2, yeah. RB: Oh, wow! So, you’re already into season 2, then? I think the world has changed since season 1 and season 2, so, I’m excited, and a little bit nervous, about what we’re going to be talking about next time. But, I suspect as we go into season 2 that the stakes are higher. So, it’s – the writers describe it as him descending into a kind of rabbit hole of dissent and deceit and, really, you know, that’s what they wrote. You know, it becomes clear to him that, were he to expose the whistleblower, that he would also be implicating himself. RA: Well, um, as Daniel really guides the audience, and all of the characters through the pathway to finding Thomas Shaw he really stumbles on some difficulties. I think that is a real struggle that a lot of people in your – in that field, end up facing and it actually makes me wonder what kind of trouble you’re going to get into as an undercover agent, in the season. RA: Well, here’s the interesting thing, from an actor’s point-of-view, Daniel has to have an opinion as to whether he condones what Thomas Shaw is doing at the expense of his agency, and I had to bring my own, kind of, opinions on that to the role also, so, you know, he’s torn between being a public servant and a patriot and being a human being and, you know, seeing both perspectives which we probably all could do with a little bit of, at the moment. So, that makes me wonder, does your character in the show sympathise with this person? RB: Definitely, especially with everything that’s been happening with Snowden. So, it really felt politically relevant when we shot it but, in the interim, it’s become much more relevant, I suspect. And, it’s really seeing, how does the CIA function when it’s under attack from within and how does one man, who is a patriot, call into question his own agency. RA: Basically, it’s a story about the CIA station in Berlin, and I play a character called, Daniel Miller, who is really sent in undercover to investigate a potential whistle-blower called, Thomas Shaw, loosely based on Edward Snowden. Well, everyone, we are here with Richard Armitage (pronounced it as Armitaaage), who stars as Daniel Miller in the Epix series, Berlin Station, that’s just coming out on iTunes. Thanks so much for being on the Red Booth show. Michael Dorman and Terry O’Quinn on the Red Booth interview Richard Armitage for Berlin Station, (28 March, 2017)
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